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filpot_1
New Forum Member
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 Posted - Oct 29 2009 : 11:58:14 PM
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Originally posted by curious mind
EXCELLENT letter to the editor in the MV News today in re Thompson and Kirk
Thank you Mr. McHugh...............
"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher
Curious Mind,
If you like nonsense, it was excellent . If you are going to give credit, give it to the person it is due. That would be Sam Barone.
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Tinkerbell
Regular Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 12:14:56 AM
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Filpot...dug out my Mt Vernon News Wed Oct 28, 2009. The article CM is referring to does have the name Thomas F. McHugh at the bottom as the author. If Sam Barone wrote it, doesn't say so in the newspaper, and we would have no way of knowing any different.
AKA: Sgt/Sammy |
Edited by - Tinkerbell on Oct 30 2009 12:21:07 AM |
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GameWatcherz
New Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 01:03:19 AM
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Many of you have made claims on KP over the last few years bashing the Mt. Vernon Board of Ed. (Remember Al Hazcehak and the $150,000 to $200,000 he was paid to not come to work and probably not to sue us). He is currently a Superintendent in Northwest Ohio, so what did he do that could have warranted him to be paid to stay home from work. It must not have been against the law as many of you speculated. So, could it be that our Board or Administration were negligent in some way dealing with him? I would think so. Curious Mind and Seabiscuit have pointed out so many times in the past how incompetent they feel the Board has been. But now comes the big 180 according to S.B and C.M Now the board is brilliant in how they have dealt with the Freshwater Case. But yet C .M and S.B. still have also stated that they wouldn't want their kids educated here. I wish they would make up their minds. The Board of incompetence with Hazchak can't became the the Board of Competence with Freshwater. They are the same group that are soon to pass the $500,000 dollar mark in totally wasted spending of our hard earned dollars. (This does not include you C . M.) Let me clue C.M. and S.B. in, you were right the first time, this Board is incompetent. The Hiring of a firm like H & R on Call to investigate might have the most incompetent act this very incompetent Board could have taken. The board realizes that they made a big mistake in hiring these dopes. They now know the investigation was a sham and they failed to interview many important witnesses. There is a great deal of misinformation, half-truths, and incompetence on their part. I would not be suprised if the Board takes legal action against H&R when this is over (providing we can get Watson and Hughes off the Board.). To that end we need to vote for Brains and Integrity like Thompson and Kirk. Mrs. Barone is closely tied to Watson and we now know where his leadership has taken us. I know C.M. and S.B. have some sort of warped and way over the top opposition to Thompson and Kirk. Thank Goodness, thinking people see through that. In the end, it will be very gratifying when the truth about the Freshwater case comes out. I know they have been begging John to settle with them. And maybe he will take the settlement. Maybe he won't.
P.S. Seabiscuit, it sounds like you really have a hidden agenda where Mr. Thompson is concerned. Maybe we can do a little investigating and find out if you have some kind of history with Mr. Thompson that leads you to attack him in what seems like a personal way and not just a political difference. |
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curious mind
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 06:45:03 AM
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The federal courts have been very clear that public school teachers have no right to pray with students in class or use their positions to proselytize.
Thompson supports Freshwater.
Kirk has aligned himself with Thompson.
'nuff said.
"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher
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FTM
Regular Forum Member
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357 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 08:16:00 AM
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WONDERIN
Regular Forum Member
237 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 08:23:21 AM
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Originally posted by GameWatcherz
P.S. Seabiscuit, it sounds like you really have a hidden agenda where Mr. Thompson is concerned. Maybe we can do a little investigating and find out if you have some kind of history with Mr. Thompson that leads you to attack him in what seems like a personal way and not just a political difference.
I disagree with a lot that you said, but I don't have time to reply right now. So I will just say this about this last part of your quote. Seabiscuit took time to get real numbers and facts. The information she found is important to this election. Trying to turn this into her "personal vendetta" has no relevance at all. The facts speak for themselves. |
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curious mind
Senior Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 08:39:48 AM
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Originally posted by FTM
When have the courts ever been clear on anything?
The Courts are perfectly clear in their rulings that teachers and school administrators, when acting in those capacities, are representatives of the state, and, in those capacities, are prohibited from encouraging or soliciting student religious activity. Similarly, when acting in their official capacities, teachers may not engage in religious activities with their students.
No ifs, ands or buts about that one, guy
"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher
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messalina
Regular Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 09:37:23 AM
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Yes, indeed the investigation was a disgrace, anyone who has ever faced the prospect of a court case over firing an employee would have sent it back with, a 'do a better job or you will not get paid' note.
If Caesar were still alive, you would be chained to an oar. |
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seabiscuit
Senior Forum Member
USA
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 1:08:51 PM
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GameWatcherz
Where do I start in responding to your post?
I have expressed my views regarding Malley and Weston and have stated that the current board is dealing with many issues that were created before they were seated. Other than that, I don't believe I have ever directly made any derogatory comments about single individual board members, seated currently or previously.
I have been very clear in numerous blogs with clearly stated facts about the issues I had with Mt. Vernon Schools (i.e. individual teachers and administrative personnel) and have openly discussed these thoughts/issues with Mr. Short as well.
I have no hidden agenda. I've been up front about all the issues I've addressed.
With regard to Steve Thompson, go ahead and do any investigation you want. In fact, you are welcome to ask me any question you want. I will gladly answer it as I have nothing to hide. I could care less what you undercover or think you can uncover. If you talk with him, I'm sure that he will tell you the truth about my involvement with him over the years. I went to school with him for many years and dated him during our sophomore year. He graduated in 1976 from Mt. Vernon High School as did I and during the time that my husband worked at Ariel, I saw Mr. Thompson in the building and various events several times. I have had very brief polite social exchanges with him since High school as we do not "run in the same crowd" or have any reason to socialize with each other.
With regard to Robert Kirk, I do not know him nor have I ever met him. I only know what I have heard him speak about at all 3 Meet the Candidates events.
It would seem to me that you are not happy with the facts that I have presented on this post. Mr. Thompson and Mr. Kirk have clearly violated Campaign contribution law. That doesn't look good for candidates who state that they will better financially manage our schools. I have also clearly stated what I have observed regarding campaign signs, website links and other items which cause me concern.
You are welcome to disagree but I would encourage you to show me the FACTS as to why you disagree. Just a thought.................. |
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Editor
Administrator
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 2:51:58 PM
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WATSON FIRES BACK
Story here:
http://www.knoxpages.com/?NewsID=7530&CatID=1
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maremayfuss
New Forum Member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 3:17:05 PM
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I just received another expensive, polished flyer in the mail from the Thompson/Kirk ticket and am wondering if anything is being done about their alleged illegal campaign fund raising by the Board of Elections....or are they just allowed to spend the money hand over fist in order to gain an unfair advantage on their opponents? If they raised money illegally wouldn't that be cheating? Can they still get elected if they cheated?
This election, like every other election, is about issues and candidates, not motives. People need to interpret the facts for what they are regardless of who points them out and why. If this election were strictly about motives then everyone should be able to figure out which campaign is motivated by phony egotism and a "disregard the rules" attitude. |
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cateyes
Senior Forum Member
USA
2930 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 3:26:11 PM
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Seabiscuit...I want to THANK YOU for the time you spent finding info and posting here...we dont always agree on issues...but facts are important to both of us..not hearsay...
And now with Watson statements back..he has confirmed some info you posted here..
BOTH... KIRK AND THOMPSON have made serious misjudgements for their campaigs..by who they picked for treasurers..which they must of trusted...KNOWLEDGE is important...yes we cant know it all..but we need to learn at least to ask questions...
I have made my final vote descions...thanks again SB!!.
“On every unauthoritative exercise of power by the legislature must the people rise in rebellion or their silence be construed into a surrender of that power to them? If so, how many rebellions should we have had already?” —Thomas Jefferson
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mountvernon1805
Forum Member
USA
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 3:51:58 PM
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Originally posted by Editor
WATSON FIRES BACK
Story here:
http://www.knoxpages.com/?NewsID=7530&CatID=1
Here is the information from the treasure of the Mount Vernon City School District (from the calendar that was mailed out to everyone):
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green
Forum Member
USA
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Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 4:13:45 PM
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| It is hilarious that Thompson would question Watson's ability to manage money when Thomspon (an Ariel employee) had his retirement invested with First Knox (through Ariel) where Watson worked and managed money for ages!!! DUH!!! |
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seabiscuit
Senior Forum Member
USA
1476 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2009 : 4:33:14 PM
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Originally posted by cateyes
I have made my final vote descions...thanks again SB!!.
Thanks cateyes. I appreciate your feedback. But mostly I appreciate anyone (regardless of who they end up voting for) who is willing to listen, express their position well, digest all the facts and then make an informed choice. Debate is healthy for all of us.
And just for the record, in this last Meet the Candidate night, I saw the Steve Hughes you have spoken of. I believe he truly cares about our schools, wasn't afraid to address the "elephant in the living room", and wants what's best for the Mt. Vernon community.
You have been a great "sparing" partner in this go-round! Here's to more healthy debates in the future! |
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