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curious mind
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  8:10:31 PM  Show Profile  Send curious mind a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
hatred? bias?

you're kidding, right?

Freshwater taught religion in science class.......Freshwater believes he has a right to do so, to be insubordinate, to ignore the laws of this nation

Hondo.......that just ain't right

A vote for anyone who supports Freshwater (breaking Federal and State laws) is a vote against "common sense," sir/madam


good grief - when are some of you going to "get it?"

Unless you wish Mt. Vernon to become a repeat of Dover, PA...........





"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher



Edited by - curious mind on Oct 14 2009 8:11:19 PM
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wastintime
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  8:47:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hondo

But you seem to have almost a hatred. We should want school board members to have common sense and do things that benefit the kids. Your hatred and bias make you a very obvious bitter sad and unhappy person.


I agree that common sense is an admirable trait. I believe that Mr. Freshwater was believed by our community to have common sense and a generally "likable" guy. But, you can see where that's put our school system.

My concern is that a couple of the candidates are perceived the same way. Their agendas have me very concerned.
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FTM
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  9:13:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, CM I have read and studied the report 3 times. How many times have you studied it, with an open mind? As you know it is riddled with very big legal holes.

That why I feel it will be alot cheaper to rehire and make amends. That is when you doucment, doucment, doucment every detail. So, if something like this happens again, you'll have more then evidence, that no challenge can ever be raised.

That is why I ask the question, why would two people already on the board (one a lawyer), ever be considered for anyones vote? When the made such a mess out of the Freshwater firing.

When this goes to civil court, the first thing there going to do is ask the trial be held in a different jurisdiction, saying the can't get a fair trial here. There will be no way that the present board can get around a court order to testify. When they are force to testify, the holes in the case will go from big to enormous. My guess the school board will want to settle out of court, for a very large sum, which will never be publicized.

Either way you look at it, Freshwater is going to win. It is now up to all of us to either swallowl our ego, pride, and bullheadnes and pay a small amount. Or continue to spend more money for lawyers and get socked hard with the large settlement that will be handed out in a civil case.
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seabiscuit
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  9:29:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FTM

Yes, CM I have read and studied the report 3 times. How many times have you studied it, with an open mind? As you know it is riddled with very big legal holes.

That why I feel it will be alot cheaper to rehire and make amends. That is when you doucment, doucment, doucment every detail. So, if something like this happens again, you'll have more then evidence, that no challenge can ever be raised.

That is why I ask the question, why would two people already on the board (one a lawyer), ever be considered for anyones vote? When the made such a mess out of the Freshwater firing.

When this goes to civil court, the first thing there going to do is ask the trial be held in a different jurisdiction, saying the can't get a fair trial here. There will be no way that the present board can get around a court order to testify. When they are force to testify, the holes in the case will go from big to enormous. My guess the school board will want to settle out of court, for a very large sum, which will never be publicized.

Either way you look at it, Freshwater is going to win. It is now up to all of us to either swallowl our ego, pride, and bullheadnes and pay a small amount. Or continue to spend more money for lawyers and get socked hard with the large settlement that will be handed out in a civil case.



You're basing your entire opinion on the report? I've been at the hearing all but 2 days and I can assure you this is no open and shut case for Freshwater. Testimony has backed most, if not all, of the points in the report. John made some big mistakes and that won't be easily overlooked in the final decision.
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cateyes
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  10:27:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FTM...please check your time frame..for WHEN incident occured and WHO was ON THE BOARD to address this..

“On every unauthoritative exercise of power by the legislature must the people rise in rebellion or their silence be construed into a surrender of that power to them? If so, how many rebellions should we have had already?” —Thomas Jefferson
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WONDERIN
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  10:39:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"When this goes to civil court, the first thing there going to do is ask the trial be held in a different jurisdiction, saying the can't get a fair trial here."
FTM you must not be following this. It is in Federal Court NOT local court!
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WONDERIN
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  10:41:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't get a reply on the political forum so I will ask here:
to Mr Editor-
So you have changed the format? Now you are interviewing on your radio show instead of a taped interview? I look forward to seeing the schedule. Thanks!
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4thandgoal
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  11:00:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just had my monthly catch-up on good ole KP to see what's hot. What a fun thread! So many things to comment on and so little time ... So what's the best I can contribute to all this amazing wisdom, research, and stately opinions? I guess the biggest thing that kept running through my mind as I read the pages is simply a quote from the great Buzz Lightyear that seems so appropriate for Sea & CM: "You are a sad, strange little man." Sorry I'll likely miss your great comebacks, but go ahead in case I can sneak a peek again soon:)
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Editor
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USA
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Posted - Oct 15 2009 :  06:30:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Editor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WONDERIN

I didn't get a reply on the political forum so I will ask here:
to Mr Editor-
So you have changed the format? Now you are interviewing on your radio show instead of a taped interview? I look forward to seeing the schedule. Thanks!



quote:
Originally posted by WONDERIN

I didn't get a reply on the political forum so I will ask here:
to Mr Editor-
So you have changed the format? Now you are interviewing on your radio show instead of a taped interview? I look forward to seeing the schedule. Thanks!



I wouldn't necessarily say I 'changed' it, because I did the original interview and aired it. That was part of the intention all along. But it becomes complicated because I have to, as a requirement of my job at the radio, have the candidates on the air. It's been tough enough to schedule them for one appearance with me, let alone two.

I will provide cuts online the same as I did for the Thompson interview.
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maremayfuss
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Posted - Oct 15 2009 :  09:30:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My post from yesterday is still relevant...
It is my opinion that Thompson is a huge Freshwater supporter and I will reiterate that I believe
A VOTE FOR THOMPSON IS A VOTE FOR FRESHWATER.
I believe that only one School Board candidate is helping raise money for Freshwater so he can afford the legal fees to drag this very expensive lawsuit out.
DOES MT VERNON WANT TO ELECT A PERSON TO THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT WOULD HELP RAISE MONEY SO THE SCHOOL THEY ARE REPRESENTING CAN BE SUED?
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ratzman
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Posted - Oct 15 2009 :  09:35:11 AM  Show Profile  Send ratzman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by maremayfuss

My post from yesterday is still relevant...
It is my opinion that Thompson is a huge Freshwater supporter and I will reiterate that I believe
A VOTE FOR THOMPSON IS A VOTE FOR FRESHWATER.
I believe that only one School Board candidate is helping raise money for Freshwater so he can afford the legal fees to drag this very expensive lawsuit out.
DOES MT VERNON WANT TO ELECT A PERSON TO THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT WOULD HELP RAISE MONEY SO THE SCHOOL THEY ARE REPRESENTING CAN BE SUED?

I guess I will be voting for Mr Thompson because I feel that Freshwater is getting screwed by the school board. Guess what, I will also vote against anyone that is presently on the school board.

MY OPINION ONLY. OTHERS MAY VARY.



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larry
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Posted - Oct 15 2009 :  11:50:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I, and many of my friends plan to vote for Steve. He and his family are good people. They have strong family values, raised three childeren to be fine adults, with one still at home. To call him names, shows the stupidity of many on here. I could not care less about Freshwater and the school board, other than the fact that the board will come after us for more taxes to pay for all this. We all know this. I think Steve would be a very good addition to the school board. Good luck Steve. Just know there are people that support you, and the ethical, moral man you are.
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jacketfan
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Posted - Oct 15 2009 :  12:51:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's nothing ethical about running for a school board that you are currently suing!
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seabiscuit
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USA
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Posted - Oct 15 2009 :  12:53:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think I've seen any of the candidates called names on here by anyone. This has just been a passionate discussion of a very important topic/issue in our town.

If I've missed something, please enlighten me.
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seabiscuit
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USA
991 Posts

Posted - Oct 15 2009 :  1:12:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
larry

I went back 7 pages. No name calling in any of the posts on at least those 7 pages. Maybe you can read the remaining 7 and tell me what you think. Your comment is not founded in fact and jacketfan's comment is one you might want to answer.
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