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curious mind
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 Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 06:20:16 AM
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Originally posted by cateyes
I was at the meeting too...and yes, it seems some are following the threads on forums...defensive...wouldnt use those words...but there was some addressing some things said here...
As far as grad celebration ...this community has much to learn still about seperation of church and state...
yes, indeed it does 
"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher
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sea breeze
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 07:13:08 AM
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For those of you saying the school board "blew it" or whatever...for firing Mr. Freshwater, isn't Ohio an "at will" state? What is he suing for? Why doesn't the school board and administration have the right to fire anyone? And for any reason?
Why is Mr. Thompson on the committee to raise money for Mr. Freshwater? Does anyone else see this (Mr. Thompson's running for BOE) as a HUGE conflict of interest?
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Editor
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 09:14:47 AM
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| Ohio is at will unless someone has an employment contract. Teachers are under contract, making the situation much more complex. |
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shade
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 09:15:15 AM
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a question not a statement , isnt Kirk in the Freshwater camp ??
raising funds also ?
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves |
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Editor
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 09:30:09 AM
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Originally posted by shade
a question not a statement , isnt Kirk in the Freshwater camp ??
raising funds also ?
In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves
I asked Robert Kirk that question and he said that in no way is he affiliated with Freshwater or any pro-Freshwater movement. He said he only met John once and has never been to any supportive events or rallies. |
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maremayfuss
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USA
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 09:57:33 AM
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It is my opinion that Thompson, on the other hand, is a huge Freshwater supporter and I will reiterate that I believe
A VOTE FOR THOMPSON IS A VOTE FOR FRESHWATER.
I believe that only one School Board candidate is helping raise money for Freshwater so he can afford the legal fees to drag this very expensive lawsuit out.
DOES MT VERNON WANT TO ELECT A PERSON TO THE SCHHOL BOARD THAT WOULD HELP RAISE MONEY SO THE SCHOOL THEY ARE REPRESENTING CAN BE SUED? |
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FTM
Regular Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 10:59:58 AM
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Truthbknow,
You disagree with me but, agree with me. If, as you say, Mr. Freshwater continued doing things after being told not to. There is no proof that this ever happened. The board blew it, no documention, no proof. That problem was resolved, at least as far as the board and administration was concerned, or they would have filed letters of non-compliance.
It is beginning to look like your etiher going to pay Mr. Freshwater now, by rehiring and admitting the mistake. Or pay him later, with alot more money, when he wins his civil case.
What Mr. Freshwater said April of 2008, it would only be speculation to what Mr. Freshwater would have done.
I am amazed that we are even looking at two canidates. Who were on the board, during this legal tempest, and one being a lawyer.
To keep everyone happy, any meeting, graduation, etc, and etc. will be held at the football feild, no matter if it is in sun light, rain, snow, sleet.
Unless, you know something I don't, the Freshwater mess is not over. When it is over, try to pass a bond levy. |
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curious mind
Senior Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 11:12:11 AM
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You obviously haven't read the 15 page Investigator's Report 
"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher
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aproudamerican
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 11:41:01 AM
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I can only think about the wasted taxpayer money this entire ordeal has cost us. I haven’t taken any side in this because I have not followed it closely. I really liked hearing that the schools had to pay around 100K to attorneys just so the kid could get 5K. What a waste.
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seabiscuit
Regular Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 11:58:06 AM
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Originally posted by aproudamerican
I can only think about the wasted taxpayer money this entire ordeal has cost us. I haven’t taken any side in this because I have not followed it closely. I really liked hearing that the schools had to pay around 100K to attorneys just so the kid could get 5K. What a waste.
A Proud American
The family wasn't in it for the money. They never were. There was more to the settlement than money. The school has to do more training with their teachers to prevent incidents like this from happening again.
But, yes, its been a lot of money for something that should be over by now. Oh, yeah, but Freshwater is dragging it out. I forgot. |
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mortimersnerd
Regular Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 1:45:15 PM
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curious mind
Senior Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 3:35:47 PM
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FTM - have you read the Investigator's Report yet?
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zaubern
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 6:38:43 PM
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On 25 Aug 2008 Steve Thompson was in a group of supporters who spoke before the Mount Vernon School Board on behalf of John Feshwater.
So how is he ethicly able to serve on the school board as long as this matter is not resolved? Why is he running to be on the other side?
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curious mind
Senior Forum Member
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 6:45:00 PM
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Daubenmire and his band of freaks disciples threatened to run Freshwater supporters for school board
It seems they kept their promise
Anyone who supports Freshwater supports ignoring State and Federal Laws - Thompson danced around the issue, and badly, given his fundraising efforts on behalf of Freshwater - Kirk avoided it entirely - and neither would comment as to whether they wished Freshwater be re-instated (which would re-create a Dover, PA scenario)
'nuff said
Oh, and FTM - before you chime in - have you read the Investigator's Report yet? and are you even AWARE of the Dover, PA incident, and its implications?
my bet is not
"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher
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Hondo
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 : 8:00:26 PM
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CM...Did you not listen to AT's interview with Thompson? He talked about being a friend of Freshwater. He talked candidly about being on the committee to help raise money for Freshwater and his family. And why do you and others think that one or even two school board members could reinstate Freshwater. School board members don't have that kind of power...and shouldn't. Thompson also said he felt Freshwater was not treated fairly.
It's OK for you not to be in favor of Thompson or Kirk being elected. That's why in America we can vote. But you seem to have almost a hatred. We should want school board members to have common sense and do things that benefit the kids. Your hatred and bias make you a very obvious bitter sad and unhappy person. |
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