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truthbknown
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Posted - Oct 12 2009 :  11:43:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FTM I have to disagree with you. The letters in his file were not followed. It appears he continued the same practices. He went on National TV and said he WOULD NOT follow the letter he received in April of 2008.
But what does this have to do with this thread? Discussing the report should follow under a Freshwater thread.
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truthbknown
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Posted - Oct 12 2009 :  11:46:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah, you are wrong about a school bond. One passed since this mess started.
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maremayfuss
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  08:56:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe that voting for the primary John Freshwater Candidate (Thompson) is a huge mistake for our community. Mr Thompson has raised money for Freshwater's defense and appears to lack the good judgement that would keep our school district out of another law suit. A VOTE FOR THOMPSON IS A VOTE FOR FRESHWATER. Please be aware of who and/or what you are voting for when you cast your ballot.
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awesomebillfromdawsonvill
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  09:38:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it might be time to put God In schools.
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WONDERIN
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  10:07:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
awesomebill- I appreciate your thought. God is in our schools. Children can pray all they want, to whoever they want. There are just certain laws and rules that teachers and administrators have to follow. If you are serious I think you need to start at the Federal level. A local school can't just decide to change the law.
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buzz
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  1:32:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by awesomebillfromdawsonvill

I think it might be time to put God In schools.



then let churchs pay property taxes.
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truthbknown
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  2:40:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Speaking of Churches- I know when it is time to elect a President there is s big deal made of Churches not endorsing candidates. Does anyone know the rule regarding their tax exempt status and endorsing candidates for public or political offices, other than the President? When I went to the store the other day I noticed campaign signs on the property of Trinity Assembly of God. I was just curious, I don't recall seeing any signs on other Churches properties.
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awesomebillfromdawsonvill
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  2:43:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm fine with the church paying property tax.
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curious mind
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  3:16:27 PM  Show Profile  Send curious mind a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by truthbknown

Speaking of Churches- I know when it is time to elect a President there is s big deal made of Churches not endorsing candidates. Does anyone know the rule regarding their tax exempt status and endorsing candidates for public or political offices, other than the President? When I went to the store the other day I noticed campaign signs on the property of Trinity Assembly of God. I was just curious, I don't recall seeing any signs on other Churches properties.



Without researching the issue, my first "thought" is that any religious organization that endorses a political candidate will lose its I.R.C. Sec. 501(c)(3) tax exemption, and thus open up the organization to federal income taxation.

Not sure though..........

"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher


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seabiscuit
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  3:20:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe its time for some picture taking.....

quickly!
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curious mind
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Posted - Oct 13 2009 :  10:23:01 PM  Show Profile  Send curious mind a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by truthbknown

Speaking of Churches- I know when it is time to elect a President there is s big deal made of Churches not endorsing candidates. Does anyone know the rule regarding their tax exempt status and endorsing candidates for public or political offices, other than the President? When I went to the store the other day I noticed campaign signs on the property of Trinity Assembly of God. I was just curious, I don't recall seeing any signs on other Churches properties.



My second thought? Isn't this the same church where Thompson's organization that has raised thousands of dollars to support Freshwater is based?

Yep - someone should get a snapshot of that one - and send it to the boys and girls at the I.R.S. who oversee 501(C)(3) tax exempt statuses asap.......



"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher


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seabiscuit
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  01:01:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Went to the Meet the Candidates Night hosted by Knox County 912 Project tonight. I thought the group managed the event well.

It was evident from their responses to the question I asked that Mr. Kirk and Mr. Thompson are reading these blogs and are a bit defensive about what is being written here.

Since I didn't get to ask/say anything after their answers, I'd like to make a comment. From a conversation I had with a friend earlier today, there would be more than just Jehovah's Witnesses (not to be confused with Seventh Day Adventists) that might have conflict with attending a graduation ceremony at another denomination's church. Also Mr. Thompson reminded us that "the Christm.., I mean Holiday program is held at the Nazarene College church". Mr. Thompson acted like I had "omitted this" from my question but since West and East Schools (where my children went) had their Holiday program at the Memorial Theatre, NO, I didn't remember that some of the other schools had their's at the Naz church or I would have included that in my question but thanks for reminding me.

It seemed apparent from the comments and questioning that Mr. Kirk should follow up with either local or state legal entities to ensure that there will not be a conflict of interest should he be elected.
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cateyes
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  02:12:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was at the meeting too...and yes, it seems some are following the threads on forums...defensive...wouldnt use those words...but there was some addressing some things said here...

As far as grad celebration ...this community has much to learn still about seperation of church and state...that cel is held in a RENTED building..and unless you want it in the high school statium(maybe in a big field is better)..rain or shine..that is the best there is..and NO conflict..

Since WHEN was it expected that ALL are to be pleased by a descion...the statium might offend someone....where do we move it then.??

Oh,, dont give me this or that religion will not step foot in that building...many of many faiths already do...it is NOT a church when this takes place...it is a BUILDING big enough to meet the NUMBER demands to attending there.

anyway I found tonight insighful and informative....wonder IF they will have another meeting?? would be good so more could attend and ask questions.

“On every unauthoritative exercise of power by the legislature must the people rise in rebellion or their silence be construed into a surrender of that power to them? If so, how many rebellions should we have had already?” —Thomas Jefferson
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cateyes
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  02:15:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a legal challenge on this IRS issue...just havent been following it..



quote:
Originally posted by curious mind

quote:
Originally posted by truthbknown

Speaking of Churches- I know when it is time to elect a President there is s big deal made of Churches not endorsing candidates. Does anyone know the rule regarding their tax exempt status and endorsing candidates for public or political offices, other than the President? When I went to the store the other day I noticed campaign signs on the property of Trinity Assembly of God. I was just curious, I don't recall seeing any signs on other Churches properties.



Without researching the issue, my first "thought" is that any religious organization that endorses a political candidate will lose its I.R.C. Sec. 501(c)(3) tax exemption, and thus open up the organization to federal income taxation.

Not sure though..........

"You might have to fight a battle more than once to win it" - Margaret Thatcher






“On every unauthoritative exercise of power by the legislature must the people rise in rebellion or their silence be construed into a surrender of that power to them? If so, how many rebellions should we have had already?” —Thomas Jefferson
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cateyes
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Posted - Oct 14 2009 :  02:19:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FYI some churches are paying taxes...making the descion long ago...render unto Ceasar what is Ceasuars..and to avoid any issues with IRS...

And because of this...they have NO fear of IRS telling them what they can say..politics or not



quote:
Originally posted by buzz

quote:
Originally posted by awesomebillfromdawsonvill

I think it might be time to put God In schools.



then let churchs pay property taxes.



“On every unauthoritative exercise of power by the legislature must the people rise in rebellion or their silence be construed into a surrender of that power to them? If so, how many rebellions should we have had already?” —Thomas Jefferson
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September 3, 2010
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